Monday, July 11, 2005

keeping you up to date

It's been difficult to keep posting this week first of all because I don't have an internet conection in my dorm room. I've also been very busy.

Here at the YLI team conference we've been having alot of good experiences. The students in my small group are amazed at what they've been learning. I've had several tell me that this has been the greatest "camp" expereince of their life. One told me that what he's learned here has challenged everything he's been told in the past and now he wants to stop agreeing with everything he's told because he's seen another perspective and wants to study it himself.

I've had alot on my mind this week so far which will fuel blogs to come I'm sure. Mike Devries has once again freaked me out and challenged my thinking. The first night he showed a nooma (www.nooma.com) called bullhorn and then spoke on how the "good news" the gospel has somehow been twisted into bad news. I've expressed some of his concerns before, recently infact, In my recent blog "missing th point?"

Mike said:"if this whole thing is just about depopulating hell and populating heaven... is that really good enough?" "Jesus talked more about the poor than heaven." "Jesus never waved heaven in front of anyone's face like a carrot."

isn't it interesting that so many of the things we listen to a pastor say in church are not the things Jesus talked about? The story of mankind is not a story of a failed project by God, it's the redemptive story of the Hope of messiah. It's the story of an ill world being healed.

so as Mike said, "is it just, like, saving my soul?" or is it about a much bigger picture. If we view the world as a big broken pot we must ask what kind of God we think God is. who is God? What would God do with a broken pot? When something breaks you have two options, throw it in the trash or fix it. which is God's story?

4 comments:

Paula said...

Some really good thoughts in this post. It is important to learn to care for the world--especially the poor and oppressed. Jesus talks alot about that. I explored that thought in an article on Crosswalk today. (http://www.crosswalk.com/family/home_school/1339365.html)

At the same time Jesus did make a point to let us know that He was prepaing a place for us in heaven--and Paul (I think) said if we didn't have eternity we would be a people to be pitied.

I agree with the old song that says we shouldn't be so heavenly minded that we are no earthly good. At the same time, if we are to truly begin to embrace a suffering world I think it is important to remember that there is a heaven and a time will come when He will wipe every tear away. Suffering would be intolerable if we didn't have that hope, IMHO

Hey, thanks for your kind words on Gracereign today!

Stephanie said...

Sounds like you're learning a lot. I love how Mike makes people think. I think I learn more from listening to him than anybody else I've ever heard speak. Can't wait to hear more!!!

Ashley said...

So you show off and post more just because you had more time than I did. Just kidding. See you in the morning!

WES ELLIS said...

I like to think of Mike as beautifully confused. He asked the right questions