tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11928317.post115695379832212540..comments2024-01-29T14:24:46.852-05:00Comments on Wes Ellis: Sacrificial Communitywellis68http://www.blogger.com/profile/06087588494600746854noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11928317.post-1157348535336774752006-09-04T01:42:00.000-04:002006-09-04T01:42:00.000-04:00i think one of the reasons every one thinks of a c...i think one of the reasons every one thinks of a cult when commited community is mentioned is that its one of the only examples of commitment to one another (missguided but still commited)we dont know how to be radical or evan commited to anyone other than ourselves(our culture sucks). we refuse to exept somthing that helps others because we are afraid to be steped on or taken advantege of. we refuse to understand that some one fully understands and expects to be abused by the people they are in community? <BR/><BR/><BR/>when do you get back to cali???Calebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10716541297583355578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11928317.post-1157061310718589512006-08-31T17:55:00.000-04:002006-08-31T17:55:00.000-04:00huh. it's funny how much the word cult has been t...huh. it's funny how much the word cult has been thrown around lately. but i think you are right-- it sounds like a cult becuase it is abnormal. its risky. in america we are so used to this clean-cut, structured, individualistic sort of life than this idea we are living out where we actually give up the rights to ourselves and live for someone else is strange--- it does look like something dangerous and scary. we are risking that this might actually be a better way to live. In my speech class we are giving wedding toats this week and something in one of my peer's speeches stuck out to me. He said, "Marriage might actually be one of the first times in our lives that we lived for someone other than ourselves." and I just thought to myself, what a tragedy. <BR/><BR/>good thoughts.H. Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04247757576759284441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11928317.post-1156992813902533002006-08-30T22:53:00.000-04:002006-08-30T22:53:00.000-04:00good thoughts!!! I'm glad you made the changing th...good thoughts!!! <BR/><BR/>I'm glad you made the changing the world association. That's the real mission of community. It' not just for itself, it's at its best when it gives itself away. Its purpose is to give itelf away. <BR/><BR/>-Weswellis68https://www.blogger.com/profile/06087588494600746854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11928317.post-1156986836135795222006-08-30T21:13:00.000-04:002006-08-30T21:13:00.000-04:00Why doesnt anyone associate your description of co...Why doesnt anyone associate your description of community with an army? <BR/><BR/>As I was reading, I was thinking a couple of things:<BR/><BR/>1) if you were signed on to die, to actually give up your life, what would your devotion to others look like? I mean, like you said, what if the community was more of a through the week thing than just a Sunday get together? <BR/><BR/>Actually, I think it is more of a Sunday get together thing in the end, but what if the rest of the week kept pace with Sunday and Sunday was celebrated like the 8th day of Creation? Then the whole thing would be different... wouldnt it?<BR/><BR/>I think most Christian folk really have no ambition to see their lives truly changed, they still want to shop at the mall, or Barnes&Noble, they still want to have a retirement plan and nice clothes etc. They still want to travel the world and see all the sites etc. And there is nothing inately wrong with any of that stuff, but put it all together in a single person (or better yet a whole culture) and it is a way of life. But it is not the Christlike way of life. It does not change the world, it indulges it.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, an army changes the world. An army roughs it. Soldiers put their lives in each others hands. They take risks and plot campaigns. The see the world they way it will be after they win the war, and they lay down their lives to play their part. They embrace strict discipline. They lose their selves for the sake of the unit. They are dedicated to the cause. But not most Christian folk I know.<BR/><BR/>2) I forgot two. I have been interupted twice here. Maybe I will think of it later....<BR/><BR/>Many blessings...Agent Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17797031158032033042noreply@blogger.com